Get any of them into a real ocean with real waves and they would get trashed! Riding a perpetual wave is for cruise lines, water parks, Germans, and 10 year olds. It's really easy to "drop into" a perpetual wave since all you're doing is stepping off the pavement into the wave. They don't have to paddle out past the white water, duck dive 10 foot waves, and then drop into a 15 footer. Those are the people you see stuck in the wash and breaking their boards on the shore breaks. Silly Germans. You guys should have kept France, maybe you could surf the shores of Normandy.